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Ether in small gas engines
Ken, we have a whack of those little Hondas on various things, they all start and run like a champ, BUT, they like gas to start.
If yours doesn't have a primer, get one, if it does, don't be afraid to use it. Even just shut down and on a warm day they like the choke, full till it kicks, if it doesn't start, back the choke off to 1/2 and try again.
I've never been able to flood a Honda either, dripping wet they still start, a little dry, forget it.
Best of luck.
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Ken, trust me, if there's a problem with those engines, you have the only two I've ever heard of!
You can get a primer bulb for anything that has a fuel line, both inline and button styles. Any place that sells marine supplies will have replacement inline ones for 1/4" ID hose.
It sure sounds like you're not giving them enough gas, like I said, they REALLY like to start with lots of choke and/or gas. I don't think I've ever had to pull one more than 3 times ever to get it started.
In fact I'm in the midst of making a modern reproduction of a classic wooden boat, it will be powered with a Honda engine buried down below the decks.
Best of luck.
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Ken, just an idea, but I noticed that you mention turning off the fuel.
Do you by chance turn off the fuel and run the engine dry every time you use the engine? If so, that could be part of the problem, I had a small engine (Honda) dealer (we buy a LOT from them) that the ONLY time you should shut off the fuel and allow the engine to run dry is in the fall as part of an over-winter storage regimen. For normal use, just shut off the ignition, and then close the fuel. In fact I doubt we even shut off the fuel most times.
The explanation given was that running the engine dry will create a vacuum/air lock in the carb and it will be a bear to start following that.
Just for giggles, try turning on the gas a few minutes (or longer) before you plan on starting the engine to be sure that the carb is full of gas before you start yanking on the rope.
You should also, at all costs, avoid using methanol blended gasolines in any small engines, doing so is just asking (loudly) for trouble, both in starting, and in the (shortened) life of the engine.
Best of luck.
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